Talk:Combine Soldier
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Good work[edit]
Good work on the Tactics section, Scruffy, that's a great improvement! --MattyDienhoff 00:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
So, are the Nova Prospekt Prison Guard and Shotgun Solider articles being merged with this one or not?? --Donovan-j-charlie 19:18, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'll get on it. --MattyDienhoff 03:44, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Soldier squads[edit]
Wasn't there a big page somewhere on the site that detailed all the names of the Soldier squads a few months back? Whatever happened to that? THEULTIMAte PIMPDINOSAUR 07:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think there ever was. If that information belongs anywhere, though, it'd probably be in Overwatch Voice. --MattyDienhoff 12:19, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hey Matty, don't you think the Combine Prison Guards could make great Combine Commanders? Great uniforms huh? I did that on my machinima: Scanner-Life. -- Mega Sean 45 10:28 AM December 22, 2008 (UTC)
- I always saw the Elites as commanders, really. --MattyDienhoff 17:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Skin variations[edit]
Just a thought, there are many other variations of Overwatch Soldiers in HL mods, but they're mods. I have some pics of the re-skinned soldiers, but as their mods, i'm going to assume they shouldn't go on this page, if not, could I put them on the Mod that their from page, if it exists. Did that make sense? --Donovan-j-charlie 23:59, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- One of the pics I have are of the original soldiers from Missing Information. The others are from a mod called Appeltaart Mod (that is the right spelling, check if you don't believe me, go to www.hl2mods.co.uk and search for it). From Amod there is an orange one (Overwatch Soldier), a green version (Prison Guard) and a Black Elite (could put that in Elite section though). --Donovan-j-charlie 00:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- You were right the first time, screenshots of modded content only belong in articles about those mods. --MattyDienhoff 02:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- OK, i'll have to try and create a good article about the mod first. I'll do it in Office Word and then paste it to the wiki. Unless anyone else is going to create a page aboput Appeltaart mod (Amod) --Donovan-j-charlie 16:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Don't create a page for a mod unless this mod is notable! Don't create a page for a mod just to add pictures of reskinned soldiers! And if I were you, I'd write my article in the notepad, just to avoid some Word format that's not commonly used here. Klow 17:08, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Also, respect the mod articles structure! Klow 17:25, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- How about some Beta Combine Soldier model? --Mega Sean 45 21:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Beta soldiers would go in Half-Life 2: Beta, wouldn't they? Also, thanks for telling me that notepad is better to use than word. I may wait to create the article as it isn't a 'famous' mod yet as it is still short and in its beta stages. --Donovan-j-charlie 21:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Where did the Shotgunner picture go? --Mega Sean 45 15:18, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure I see what you're talking about... If you want to see when and why a pic was removed from this article, just browse its history. Klow 17:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
First Appearance[edit]
THe Overwatch Soldier actually appears in Route Kanal. In the bit where there are two CPs to the left and a hack to the right in the sewers, if you go to where the manhack to the right came from and noclip out of the opening above, there's an Soldier on the ledge up there. I found him by firing an SMG grenade up there, it exploded and his corpse fell down!! --Donovan-j-charlie 15:47, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
On Soldier Variants & Specialization[edit]
In the article there are several references to the combine soldiers being specialized in the use of different weapons, as opposed to just different rank indicators. The maroon/shotgun welding soldiers are squad leaders, an idea that was scrapped for the first half-life, yet used in uplink. The snipers are just a different entity for code/gameplay sake, not because they are specially trained in the use of the weapon. To quote Marc Laidlaw, page 111 of Raising the Bar; "The Combine as an organism is successful because of it's lack of specialization. It's something that no civilization has ever been able to adapt fast enough resist, because it has so many arms, so many different attacks and so many different species weaponized and co-opted for their strengths."--69.122.209.65 03:04, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
Transcripts[edit]
Although I'm proficient in English, I have great trouble understanding soldier communications (eg. the radios in the bunkers before Nova Prospekt). Would anyone be kind enough to provide transcripts of these communications for the less able of us? :) Tagz 10:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Article name change to "Combine Soldier"?[edit]
All sources from prima guides to both versions of Raising the Bar simply refer the enemies as "Combine Soldiers". The only time they are called "overwatch soldiers" in-game is when rebels call out their appearance since Episode One. And in the released version of Raising the Bar, "Overwatch Soldier" refers to only a single piece of concept art two pages away from the "Combine Soldier" section of the book.
I think changing to article's name to "Combine Soldier" is a little more cohesive to all other sources that call these enemies that name, rather than something that is only heard of in occasional times, therefore, would make the term "Overwatch Soldier" as a redirecting name to the article. Which I also think is good for the "Clean Up" project for the article itself. Gabeluna27 (talk) 20:42, 28 May 2018 (MSK)
- Yes, I agree with this. These articles seemed to have originally been named without consulting the official sources. Unfortunately, this would be part of a fairly large endeavor as Overwatch Elite and Overwatch Sniper need to be renamed as well, along with all of the associated categories, links, templates, and terminology used in other articles. This is part of what the noted cleanup encompasses, and it's going to be a lot of work. Marphy (talk) 11:31, 29 May 2018 (MSK)
Soviet PMG and PBF Gas Masks[edit]
I think the part of the article that describes the gas masks the soldiers wear as "appear[ing] to be a cross between an old Soviet PMG and PBF gas mask" should be removed. These masks are what the Civil Protection gas masks are likely based on. I only see two similarities between these gas masks and the Combine Soldier mask, and they're both a stretch. The filter on the side of the PBF is likely the inspiration for the side filter on the Combine Grunt, which isn't even a design referenced on the wiki page for the Combine Soldier. Second, the PMG has a horizontal notch between the eyepieces and the filters, which is a feature shared between the Combine Soldier and Civil Protection masks. I would argue the Combine Soldier mask looks more like the M17 than it does either of these two. Is it directly stated in RTB that they're based on the PMG and PBF and I missed it? Am I just taking crazy pills? What do you think?--QIncarnate (talk) 03:35, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- I think you're right and that while the Metropolice helmet reminds me of the PMG, less so for the PBF and neither look like they share much with the Soldiers' helmets. I've searched both regular RtB and the Uncorrected Proof for 'helmet' or 'gas mask' and the abbreviations themselves and found nothing; I've checked Prima Guide as well for good measure. All in all I'm in favour of removing it. Cvoxalury (talk) 06:55, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- count it, let’s go QIncarnate (talk) 19:05, 6 June 2026 (UTC)