Talk:The G-Man
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Contents
- 1 Briefcase
- 2 Redundancy
- 3 too short
- 4 Animated picture of G-man from Breencast
- 5 Cut lines
- 6 Possible G-Man "Sighting"?
- 7 ditto?
- 8 Link to scene's within the game (opening and ending hl2 and all the other ones)
- 9 Strange G-Man sound clips
- 10 G-Man on work at Black Mesa as researcher???
- 11 HL:A billboards
- 12 hes starts in skibidi toilet
Briefcase[edit]
Does anybody have a picture of the briefcase's contents? I can't view the model right now. 71.245.76.111 00:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
The Article has a link to an image I believe. Check the list of sources at the bottom. ;) (Strat-N8 06:34, 9 February 2009 (UTC))
Redundancy[edit]
If I may ask, could I have permission to remove either the "In-game appearances" or "List of exact in-game locations"? It seems overly redundant to have two sections in the article that are basically the same thing and the article would be much more concise without one of them. (Strat-N8 06:34, 9 February 2009 (UTC))
I don't want to start a whole new topic for the sake of a little nitpicking, so I'll voice my concern here. But isn't the statement that Gordon's choice at the end of Half-Life is a Hobson's choice directly contradicted by the article about Hobson's choice? SteveZombie 23:16, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
too short[edit]
the (06:27, 9 February 2009) edit shortened this page quite a lot please try and replace the information taken out thank you diobern 15:03, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
It appears shortened after I removed a ton of speculation that had no place in the bulk of the article. For example:
Some say that he may be related to Aperture Science because of these abilities. This relation would also offer some support to the theory that G-man purposely caused the Resonance Cascade (by supplying the "defective" crystal) so that he could bring down Black Mesa, (which might make sense, as Aperture Science and Black Mesa were intense competitors, but he probably didn't want aliens to conquer Earth, which would explain why he let Gordon loose on the Combine).
I also moved several items that seemed out of place from the main article to the Trivia section as well (such as his briefcase having the Black Mesa symbol on it it the first game but lacking it in the sequel).
However, I suppose I did trim the section on his talking to/interacting with other characters a bit too much, so I'll put that back in. :) (Strat-N8 16:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC))
moving stuff to trivia was exactly the sort of thing i was hoping you'd do that way its a better article that isent missing anything diobern 15:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Animated picture of G-man from Breencast[edit]
Hi, I animated the frames of the G-Man's sighting in the Breencast. Problem is, I don't know how would be best to include it in this article, or whether to include at all.You see, it's sort of... big. 795 KB in its full size (256x128), and 240 KB in a reduced size (128x64, scaled with gifsicle). This seems like a lot of data to force the user to load.
Also, I haven't even uploaded the full version, because I felt that you might think it violates fair use. The full version is 512x128. Would you like me to upload that?
I'll let you guys decide. Hope you actually respond to this -_- - Elecbullet 02:38, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
- Why doesn't the file have all frames? Isn't it a bit too fast?... And why is the information template for that file so messy? Can't you just copy/paste it like it is said to do, thus without altering it? copy and paste the following code into the "Summary" field below and fill in the correct information to properly source your image, don't alter it and don't forget "==Summary==" It's all written so that any user can understand all the steps. Thanks anyway for adding it, but please just read, and don't leave redlinks behind. Klow 11:11, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
- It doesn't have all the frames? Damn. There are 25 textures in the game files and I just figured that's how it went, texture 1, texture 2, and so on. Maybe some frames are repeated, it's been a while since I played HL2.
- I guess that if it doesn't have all the frames then it's not good for the article. I could always slow it down, and see if I can find out how the actual one in-game goes. That might make the filesize larger though. And sorry for messiness. I didn't really understand all the category stuff. - Elecbullet 05:32, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
- Well just copy/paste the info template as it is and someone else may complete it. You can also draw inspiration from the other pics and copy/paste (like I often do, actually). But just don't alter the template itself. To get back on the pic, you say "to use less of the original" in the info - I thought you were talking about the different texture pics(but you were talking about the frames). I suppose all pics are there, but it really seems too fast... Maybe decompiling one of the maps it appears in might give us some clues about the proper framerate. Apart from that, it can stay, and the size is not that huge. Klow 11:30, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
- Ok I checked in a decompiled "d3_c17_03", but my mapping skills are too shitty to help me find what the framerate might be (I guess I was looking at the wrong place). Btw, where all the texture files located? I can't find them. Klow 11:38, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
- Uhhh... See, I don't really know... Some time ago, I was browsing my GCFs when I found them all. I thought "This could be useful!" and I extracted them. Weeks later I would actually get around to using them, but now I forget where I found them. It's no problem to slow down the picture though. The frames are now (I think) 10 centiseconds each, I could increase it to, say, 15.
- Ok I checked in a decompiled "d3_c17_03", but my mapping skills are too shitty to help me find what the framerate might be (I guess I was looking at the wrong place). Btw, where all the texture files located? I can't find them. Klow 11:38, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
- Well just copy/paste the info template as it is and someone else may complete it. You can also draw inspiration from the other pics and copy/paste (like I often do, actually). But just don't alter the template itself. To get back on the pic, you say "to use less of the original" in the info - I thought you were talking about the different texture pics(but you were talking about the frames). I suppose all pics are there, but it really seems too fast... Maybe decompiling one of the maps it appears in might give us some clues about the proper framerate. Apart from that, it can stay, and the size is not that huge. Klow 11:30, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
Cut lines[edit]
I watched something on YouTube, about something that somebody scrounged up from the files of HL1, which weren't used in the game, and set them all up like a museum of sorts. There's one dark alcove featuring the G-man standing there with the goofy scientist tie, and saying a cut line: "Well, it looks like we won't be working together. No regrets, Mr. Freeman? But there are a few survivors of your personal holocaust who would like the chance to meet the man responsible for the total annihilation of their base (hissing 'S')." And it is "BASE", not "RACE", Klow! I heard myself! Can't you get that through your thick skull? How many times do I have to change that? *sigh* anyways, this is new stuff.
- My "thick skull" tells me it's actually "face". More seriously, I also listened to "gman_noregret.wav" again, and it is "race". A "B" and a "R" sound really different, even in G-Man's mouth. Please don't change it again. You should live up to your username. And please sign next time. Klow 21:38, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
- I can attest. I listened to it and listened to it and it is most definitely an "R" at the beginning.--YabbaMyIcingTalk 21:52, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
It was cut because Valve realized that the Holocaust bit would be offencive to people. SuperMario2 13:08, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
Possible G-Man "Sighting"?[edit]
I was playing through the game again, and I think there's one area where you see the G-Man that isn't mentioned here in the wiki. I first saw it in the "Follow Freeman!" chapter, in the Nexus building, after the high-security area with all the lasers. It's a little graffiti picture that shows a man with an umbrella. The man looks very similar to the G-Man, except he's not carrying a briefcase, and his suit is covered by a raincoat.
Here's a picture of this possible G-Man, although it's low-quality, since my computer doesn't run HL2 very well at a higher quality: [1]
If this IS an actual G-Man location, it should be added. Also with a better quality image :3 BlackSuzaku 08:20, February 17, 2010 (UTC)BlackSuzaku
- That's just Resistance graffiti and it is seen in a few places. At this point in time, there is no reason from the game to believe it is the Gman, and just looking at it is inconclusive.--YabbaMyIcingTalk 08:40, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
ditto?[edit]
overuse of the word ditto anyone? — Unsigned comment by 76.102.191.55
Link to scene's within the game (opening and ending hl2 and all the other ones)[edit]
Shouldn't we link (To youtube or whereelse) the scene's of the G-mann, not where he appears but the opening scene's and the ending scene in hl2? Just a sugggestion --Jorre22225 21:26, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
Strange G-Man sound clips[edit]
I just found this video of the "mummbling" and... well, just watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j20LirCp2Rc&feature=related
A female voice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXiUhDPeS6A&feature=related
Reversed female voice (0:33)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pjZLTljP5I&feature=related SuperMario2 19:15, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
- It's been a while since that was posted, but I agree. "gman_mumble4.wav" sounds to me like "If I were one to judge I think I would say so!", "gman_mumble5" sounds like "My employers don't really believe in that.","gman_mumble6" I always thought was "The scientist has applied." but after seeing that video I am convinced its "You're a scientist, I'm a god.". The scientist himself can be understood, he says "I have told you a hundred times, I'm against you pushing the equipment beyond the stress level!". This is not worth putting in the article but I really wanted to say it. Pete (talk) 13:33, 18 September 2014 (BST)
G-Man on work at Black Mesa as researcher???[edit]
As I was playing Half Life Episode 1, I noticed a picture that had the G-Man and Eli Vance and other scientists in a group posing for a picture. Possible knowledge of what they were doing together?
I think it's been established that that wasn't the G-Man in that picture. All G-Man did was procure the crystal for them. The ONLY side G-Man is truly on is HIS side.Doug Exeter 02:31, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
HL:A billboards[edit]
https://combineoverwiki.net/wiki/The_G-Man#Half-Life:_Alyx_2
Entanglement (a1_intro_world_2): After Alyx escapes her transport with the help of Russell, she begins her travel on foot to his lab. Along the way, she passes a large billboard on the side of the road advertising Occular Recalculation Procedures Inc.. The massive pair of disembodied eyes shown in the advertisement is actually that of the G-Man's.
The oculist advertisement billboard featuring The G-Man.
Is there a source saying this is G-man being featured? Put it another way, how much do these count as featuring him? I get that it's an extreme close-up of his model, but the eyes don't have the characteristic glow, and there's no telling that's him beside by knowing it's him. I think it shouldn't quite count. Only as trivia, maybe?
Every other time he's featured "indirectly" (e. g. inside the lab equipment in Eli's Lab) is much more solid and intentional. Cvoxalury (talk) 02:12, 23 March 2024 (MSK)
- The character model in the billboard is definitely the G-Man's, and when you compare it to the very few other human characters that do appear in HL:A, it's obvious just how distinct the G-Man is from the rest of them (all of the citizens are immediately eliminated due to their models and textures being of a much lower fidelity than the featured characters). This is not the first time a G-Man appearance has been relegated to just a texture rather than an NPC (see the glitchy Breencast), nor is it the first time he's appeared in a deliberately surreal, almost fourth-wall-breaking manner (see the TV cameo). As for receiving any confirmation on this appearance, that's not a luxury we're often afforded. We can certainly say that, by definition, the billboard is literally a G-Man appearance. Waiting for Valve to specifically comment on this is an unlikely prospect, as it took Dhabih Eng nearly 15 years to reveal the hidden G-Man in Eli's lab (and this HL2 appearance is currently listed in the article). The HL:A billboard is still, nonetheless, very atypical from the standard G-Man sighting, but the game itself was also the first proper Half-Life title in over 12 years, the team behind it being far removed and pretty unrecognizable from the previous installment in the series. It's no surprise that a lot of things feel different this time around. Unless Valve wishes to speak up on the matter, I do not feel scrutinizing semantics here is warranted and opt to simply accept a G-Man appearance at face value, more or less how we had always been expected to.
- For the record, I did put out an open question to anyone at Valve willing to take credit for this billboard in HL:A, ostensibly with the desire of asking for more elaboration, but no one took the hook, nor did I realistically expect anyone to. Marphy (talk) 06:25, 23 March 2024 (MSK)
- I do not feel scrutinizing semantics here is warranted and opt to simply accept a G-Man appearance at face value, more or less how we had always been expected to - well, alright. I think it's less deliberate than that, and that the deliberation does matter in saying whether it's featuring the character or not, but let's continue with how it was then. Cvoxalury (talk) 10:51, 23 March 2024 (MSK)
hes starts in skibidi toilet[edit]
why are you removing important info he starts in skibidi toilt as the againstonist and then becomes an allie against the astro toilets