Talk:Isaac Kleiner

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Relationships: Clean up[edit]

If anyone has any spare time could they possibly clean up the "relationships" section? Its writing style is, quite frankly, awful - Magnusson's description reads "Arne Magnusson

While Eli is the opposite to Isaac, Arnie is just a jerk. He is dominating and overbearing, something that is too much for a character like Isaac to take. "................... "just a jerk". Clearly a perfectly suitable phrase for an encyclopedia. Please fix this! JgcxCub 23:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, yeah. I'll get right on it.--YabbaMyIcing 00:35, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I think it looks much better now.--YabbaMyIcing 00:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Appearance in Half-Life[edit]

While scanning over the Black Mesa Wiki, I came across Isaac Kleiner's page, who is included in the mod. At first I thought they just added him in the Anomalous Materials test chamber area for the sake of including him in the story, however, according to the wiki, "Kleiner's appearances in Black Mesa are as dictated by Marc Laidlaw himself". Seeing as he appears in the mod as the scientist who opens the door for Gordon when on his way down to the chamber, and as the wounded scientist being treated by Eli, I think we can assume that the "Einstein" scientist model that appears in these places in the original game is a retconned Kleiner. If Valve themselves told the Black Mesa mod team this, I think we should implement it as well. The page can be seen here. - Halo-343 20:24, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

I saw that, but I need more than "as dictated by Marc Laidlaw himself", thus a more solid source. It's not even in Marc Laidlaw Vault. The part where Eli is referred to as helping Kleiner is the part where he loses his leg, which is not seen in HL. Laidlaw suggested it was either in BM or City 17, and it was later confirmed to be C17. So, if this is actually Kleiner (and why not?), I need a better proof. Klow 23:27, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

"MIT professsor"?[edit]

I don't remember him ever saying this anywhere... Could somebody clear up whether or not he does say, or imply, this anywhere in-game? Bramblepath 07:41, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

In the letter in the half life instruction manual, it is said that he was Gordons mentor at MIT, and to be a mentor, you gotta be a professor there.--Fijure 12:18, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
I thought it might be somewhere there... Thanks. Bramblepath 17:53, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Relationships: Kleiner and Eli[edit]

It says that Eli is the opposite of Kleiner. Kleiner is also described here as "reserved, logical, and cautious". Would anyone be opposed to me changing this? Because I, for one, don't find Kleiner reserved at all, and "cautious" is one of the last words I would use to describe him. And while he and Eli are opposite in a few ways, I think Magnusson is much better suited to be described as his overall opposite. NoriMori 13:39, 18 September 2012 (UTC)